:: Message for Sgt.Eightball ::
Moin Moin Sgt.Eightball,
I thought after last night it would be a good idea to make a few things clear,
which might have been mentioned before but here I go -again-.
First, you should know, that at least I am appreciating gaming with you.
Being an admin for OS is not about how much time you have spent here on the server, teamspeak or forums.
It is much more important how you have dealed with inappropriate behavior, players who do not respect/ignore server rules. If you have been supporting those who have been picked on for no reason like getting teamkilled but in a way that no one is offended within speech or behavior.
Another point might be, you do have a way of justice which can easily be misunderstood since you are one person of temper when you 'respond' to injustice. For example 'wtf NAME' is not the perfect way of being diplomatic and solving an issue between two players.
Using 'bad language' is fine with those who know you like I do for example. But others who are 'just' in game do not know about your laughs nor your good intentions since they just see what you write in response.
And when you think about it, you might understand that someone who has been 'shut up' by e.g. 'wtf!' or 'rush you motherf*****' and/or zulu'd once or twice at the same time since he/she has been last but did not recognize as quick as he/she should have, would probably be slightly irritated or offended. You need to let people explain even when this means you need to spend more time and patience on issues which should not be an issue for a fair and nice gameplay for all.
Zulu is OK, but reminding those who did not rush by last man/woman with a short message like: 'Last man RUN and GUN' shall be good too. If they still play on their own, name the person here on the forums and we will take care of the matter once we get a chance.
And you should know, that we do our best to keep the OS server as enjoyable for all those gamers out there. But there are sure times when no admin is present to watch you lil sheeps since we are not playing 24/7
and do have a real life somewhere.
-Sorry OS members, but I will take the chance and speak for all of us and if this is NOT welcome, send me a PM and I will take the following off again-
So we from OS are not disrespecting you since we have not asked you to become an admin for OS. We just think that you are not fit to be an admin of the things I have mentioned above. An admin should be able to solve issues in an objective way without swear words whether it is personal or not.
Anyway, thanks for reading and I am looking forward to a nice, smooth gameplay in the future with less trouble when we all are on the same side, if you know what I am talking about. One for all and all for OS
Greetz'n'hugs from 'Ostfriesland' (the region I live in) in Germany
badtwobone wrote:by badtwobone » Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:33 pm
ban ban ban !!!. thats what i think he has no respected we dont need people like you eight ball . ggzs all bones
Slayer wrote:by Slayer » Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:39 pm
I'm already searching for the hammer Bone. I want to have a fun and good games, and I'm not a babysitter.
MrJigglyPuff wrote:by MrJigglyPuff » Sat Dec 11, 2010 2:32 am
Hey Eightballs.... not cool, not cool.
The Admins are here to keep the trash and the riff raff out. Sorry you felt you needed to include yourself in that category.
Disrespect of anyones nationality is sooo not cool. Your responses on the Shout only cemented what I just said.
Slayer wrote:by Slayer » Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:51 am
Bones and I were already singing this song...
Sgt.Eightballs wrote:by Sgt.Eightballs » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:23 pm
Oni is abusing her admin prev.................she Ban spider for calling her a bitch.i have records on teamspeak that i recorded with slayer and several other players making sexual remarks to oni all day long..ever day for the last 6 months....she even changes her name to sexybitch from time to time..then spider which has played with oni and sat on ts with us for hours calls her a bitch and she banns him..then she makes post about me saying i am using a few curse words on server if i dont stop ill get banned.i have played os for 7 years and never have been disrespectful to any players but oni types up this big bullshit post about me and my attiude but in the same breath says i love playing with u but mabey some people complain...reallly who has complained and for what i have never even been warned. but shes admin now so the rules change without any warning who is she to deside who can speak freely and who cant when they do it all the time..its bullshit....................i have never had problems until oni puts up a post about me i guess she wants all the attention..which it seems like everyone is gonna kiss her ass cause shes lets them talk nasty to her thats bullshit too.everyone should be treated the same......i should not get banned for standing up for someone that was treated bad thats the fact...i think os need to figure out if its ok to talk nasty to the female players or not and make the rule the same for everyone...that would be a good start..but to start banning players for no reason is pitiful...i got banned for posting in shout box thats bullshit too but im sure oni little rant about me didnt help slayers has been a dick to me since i let it be known that all the nasty talk was bullshit i think it needs to be addressed by pops ....it should not be going on period if u ask me respect all players that what u say .....welll all male players on os should respect female players thats a fact.....so what are we gonna do about it thats my question.
Sgt.Eightballs wrote:by Sgt.Eightballs » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:30 pm
im sitting her reading forums and the bullshit goes on in here also the women players are here to play just like we are they should not be talked to like the are objects and thats whats going on by the admins...are u serious the admin are breaking the rules just as much as the players are so who governs the admins................
by MrsOni » Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:17 pm
there is already a post in the "Obsolete Superstars Website" section called: ":: Message for Sgt.Eightballs ::"
http://www.obsoletesuperstars.com/forum ... ?f=4&t=388
Please use that post for further responses to keep it all in order. So please stop creating new posts. And creating new posts doesn't get you more answers. Thank you!
MrsOni wrote:by MrsOni » Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:42 pm
there are times when you aren't around. There are situations you didn't witness and still happened.
One of those situations you can barely judge are Spider's offences.
I decided to keep it private first since Spider promised he wont do it again. My fault I have been wrong.
But believe me it's up to an OS admin whether the admin wants to make the first announcement public or do it in private (e.g. talking on TS or on MSN).
Best example for a public announcement is you, Sgt.Eightballs since I have decided to make a public post here in the forums so every participant gets a chance to say what he or she thinks. My reason? Pretty simple I got complaints about you in game from other RvS players and a couple OS admins have been watching you for quite a while - like it or not.
And before you got your butt kicked, I was looking forward to get a statement from you here on the forum, so in return other people could have said what they think. Unfortunatley you didn't take my advice to register and write your opinion into the forums. Then again you have taken our concerns about your temper seriously and watched your tongue till now.
:: Summary ::
1. Spider's ban...
a) insulted me (Mrs.Oni) several times in game, on TS and in private
b) his drunken behavior made other players on TS uncomfortable
c) couldn't control his mouth in game and on TS while being drunk
2. Sgt.Eightballs ban...
a) careless: your temper and misbehaving (threats) in game
b) rude: your misbehaving on the shoutbox
c) disrespectful: using OS members and Spider's name for insults on the shoutbox
d) your very own view of 'doing justice'
by Sgt.Eightballs » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:21 pm
**** you *****
****edited by fodder****
how did i overlook this comment, if i had seen this Earlier?? =instant ban FOREVER.
screw the irritation from you being childish and spamming our entire forums, this is downright unacceptable and i am certainly not gonna tolerate it while i am around!!
Sgt.Eightballs wrote:by Sgt.Eightballs » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:22 pm
i want to hear from pops and old school and baroness and kiss and howard and zog ....u and slayer are out
by MrsOni » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:40 pm
Thank you, Michael.
Now I have lost even the last piece of respect for you and your so called honest, fair attempts to receive justice.
I'm pretty sure, even when I take this a step too far, but no current OS admin will give you another chance of hearing you out. Not after your last statement directed to me.
Sgt.Eightballs wrote:**** you *****
It could have been simple, Michael. Like I have asked you to, keep your statements clear of swearings, insults or other bad language when you want others to take you for real and give a response. Your choice since you obviously couldn't. Take care.
Sgt.Eightballs wrote:by Sgt.Eightballs » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:15 pm
You have been granted admin privileges at OS, and with those privileges comes responsibility.
As an admin, you set the standards for other players.
It is your responsibility to uphold all OS server rules at all times.
Being respectful to other players/admins is everyone's responsibility.
Racial jokes, names, and armpatches are not acceptable.
Respect of other players/admins boundaries of sexual jokes are to be acknowledged.
This implies that jokes being directed specifically to someone who does not have any wish or interest in that type of humor are off limits.
This also requires acknowledgement that this is a 'mature' rated game and the vast majority of people enjoy making jokes to mutually-minded friends.
OS does not endorse or condone the TK'ing of a player to make an initial point,
but does acknowledge that admins who do use this style of server policing need to give verbal warnings (plural)
to offenders before using said policing technique.
The warnings should be given in game text and not in TeamSpeak since not all players use it.
Spectators need to be removed if gone longer than 15 minets when the server is full
Upon the change to a new map, if you are able to, pause the game until everyone has joined,
or you've waited a reasonable amount of time for people to download the new map.
If there is an accidental TK in the first 20 seconds, or an intentional TK,
the round should be restarted with the statement "No TK Rule."
If a player joins the server/game within the first 20 seconds of game play restarting the round for them with the statement
"New Player Joined" is acceptable and encouraged.
If a player gets TK'd at spawn by a tango, restarting the round with the statement "Death at Spawn"
MrJigglyPuff wrote:by MrJigglyPuff » Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:19 am
wow Eightballs, wow.
So what you're like an 11 year old? Or at least have the posting capabilities of one? You Spam posts through out the OS forums, the exact same message as if we cant read the first one?
Here I was thinking we were going to switch from the "kiddie" antics from the Shout, to posting on an adult level here on the forums about the reasons a person is banned... and there you go acting the fool. wow. Just wow.
You know what cuz` you've not impressed me.
This crap only confirms the Admins first thoughts about your ban, "good idea".
And you say your a friend to Spider, well any friend this big an @$$ to anyone deserved to be banned along with them.
When you want to have an "Adult" conversation, look me up. Otherwise, do you, me, the OS* Admins and our Gaming Friends, OH and not to forget the Entire RvS Gaming Community... a favor...
fodder wrote:by fodder » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:50 am
to bad you let your actions speak louder than your words, and your choices of wording certainly didn't help your case either.
old school wrote:
by old school » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:48 pm
well its obvious that eight didnt get it. personally i was in the military and i dont use the language that he does. i had my issues before i became an admin and try to live up to the responsibility entrusted with that appointment. sad that eight forgot what the core value was. fun for all with respect
be cool all and see ya in game soon, old
The_Baroness wrote:by The_Baroness » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:15 am
Don't drag me into this conversation. I was not there on the day of this all happening and can not defend you in any way shape or form. Just cause you act good with me does not mean you did not do such things. I believe Oni as I think of her as a nice lady and that she would not make up such crazy things.
Poopy Head wrote:Postby Poopy Head » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:21 am
Hey guys, Daniel aka Poopy Head here. I keep reading these posts and I find myself compeld to reply. I wont try to defend Sgt. Eightballs because I don't know exactly what he did, but....in my many years playing on your server and others, I've had nothing but a great time playing with him. Yes we bust each others balls but when asked to refrain himself by others, he always complies. Maybe thats not true in your case, but since I spend most of my time playing on the OS server I just like to say 2 cents. Nothing I say will get him unbanned, but I do have fun playing with him and he's a better than average player.
by Slayer » Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:02 am
Hey Poopy Daniel
Great to see you are on our forums also. I do have al a lot off respect for u off the way u are telling your feelings and thoughts.
Hopefully you will post more our forum.
See ya in the game.
MrJigglyPuff wrote:by MrJigglyPuff » Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:54 pm
Hey POOP! The PoopMaster!
I'll clue you in, the things that got eightballs banned was his rudeness to the Admins.
He posted in others name and tried to deny the deed, and when he was caught he called an Admin something unrepeatable. This got him banned off the Server.
When asked to stop spamming the Shout and join the Forums to discuss in a more prevalent manner, he spammed the forums and continued to berate the Admins. That got him banned off our Forums.
And while his gameplay was standard, it was his childish, raciest, behavior that landed him in trouble.
We have a Very Short fuse towards such acts.